MirkoBoeddecker
Hello Licht der Welt,
We are rounding off our ADOX product range at the lower end with the ADOX CMS 12-16.
This is a monodisperse film (hence the M in the middle).
After a year-long testing phase and intensive research, we have concluded that this is the highest-resolution and film with the finest grain in the world.
The granularity and resolution are about four times better than those of TechnicalPan and twice as high as those of Agfa Copex. On 35mm film, this produces roughly the same resolution as a 100 ASA 4x5" sheet film. In practice, however, hardly any lens can achieve this, which is why working on sheet film is, of course, still a different experience.
Like other films of its kind, the sensitivity of the new CMS increases in technical developers, though not to the level of TechnicalPan or Copex (and its derivatives).
Effectively, it has about two-thirds to one stop less sensitivity compared to Copex, but in return offers double the resolution and half the granularity.
We will be launching this film shortly and will also sell it individually, without a special developer.
As always, at a moderate price typical of ADOX.
The chemicals can then be purchased either separately or as a set.
This film will only be produced as a 35mm film.
The CMS can also be developed in standard developers (e.g. HC110, Technidol, Neofin Doku, etc.), but will then only achieve approx. 6 ASA.
In ADOTECH CMS, it increases to 16–25 ASA.
Sample images and further information at:
http://www.adoxfilm.de/html/adox_cms.html
Mirko
Roman
Well then, let the guessing game begin – where on earth did it come from, and who sent it... :D
MirkoBoeddecker
Well, it comes from ADOX via FOTOIMPEX.
Where else would it come from? ;-)
Mirko
Gast
Sure, and it’s manufactured by ADOX in Berlin...
Heiko
MirkoBoeddecker
No, in Berlin we only produce the film processing, the prints and the catalogue.
That goes without saying.
It would be far too expensive to have all the products finished here.
Even if it were theoretically possible.
Mirko
cfb_de
Oh yes, the FCW. Or do you mean the others?
This guessing game is actually starting to be quite fun. If it’s not Berlin, then there aren’t that many production sites left.
Best regards,
Franz
PhilippReichmuth
This 35mm film will only be produced.
Hmm, yet a film like this could really come into its own with Minox or 110. But I suppose the market isn’t big enough for it.
Philipp
MirkoBoeddecker
Phillip,
If you were to start buying the existing film of this type in proper quantities, then we could talk about it.
But unfortunately, sales of the Copex+Nanospeed set for Minox are so low that an ADOX pricing model (good quality and affordable thanks to large volumes) wouldn’t be feasible here.
It’s true that the CMS has further advantages over the Copex here. Copex delivers grain-free film in the Minox format from approx. 13x18 and up to 24x30 without any noticeable grain, whilst the CMS offers grain-free film from 18x24 and up to 30x40 without any noticeable grain. We’ve already considered all this, but Minox is manufactured from 30.5-metre rolls, and for us – as we produce the film industrially – that would be a special product and thus a price driver.
Copex can already be bought pre-spooled on these 30-metre rolls, so Minox production is no problem.
We can do the same as we do with the Baryt roll film.
If we get orders totalling 2,500 units, I’ll offer a great price in return :D
It’s not worth the effort for 110 film. There are only two cameras with lenses good enough to use the film in a reasonably meaningful way.
Best regards,
Mirko
FlorianETeply
Very nice, so that mystery’s been solved for now.
So it remains to be seen what the Impexers will be launching onto the market as the ADOX FHM ;-)
And it remains to be seen whether my lenses will somehow be able to make the most of the improved resolution ;-)
How are things actually going with the CMS regarding Mr Schwarzschild? Because without an ND filter, the CHS 25 is still too fast for some of my shots ;-)
Regards
Florian
Gast
Teply – you cheeky little blighter!
But apparently it’s just the way things are: every few years, a new fad comes along to shake up the high-resolution world.
As far as I’m concerned, though, I’ve had enough. Delta 100 in any standard solution is enough for me; the residue is just unnecessary hassle. The alternative is MF.
Bosporus
Gast
Hi Mirko,
Thanks for the info. The description certainly sounds interesting; the market will sort out the rest.
For the real connoisseurs, you could print ‘D.O.C.’ on the packet, and mention whether the herd of cattle that provided the gelatine grazed on the southern or western slopes. The casting machine number would be a nice touch too; these days, that’s also seen as a mark of authority in discussions.
Best regards,
GeorgK
Gast
Hi Mirko,
It’s not worth the effort with the 110. There are only two cameras that have lenses good enough to make any sense of using the film.
Hmm, the Minox 110S and the Pentax 110? Perhaps the Minolta Zoom 110 SLR MkII as well. There isn’t a huge market for them, that’s true.
The only option left is to
make your own
film splitter and load the
110 and
Minox cassettes yourself.
We could do that just like we do with Baryt roll film.
If we get orders for 2,500 units, I’ll offer a great price in return.
That might take a while.
Philipp
PhilippReichmuth
Hmm, the Minox 110S and the Pentax 110? Perhaps the Minolta Zoom 110 SLR MkII as well.
I can see now that it would be a bit of a stretch with the 110s anyway, given the limited choice of ISO settings. The Minolta meters at 100 ISO, the Pentax at 80; with the backlight correction of two stops on the Minolta and 1.5 on the Pentax, you can just about get the camera into usable territory. It probably wouldn’t work at all with the Minox. I suppose that’s it then :D
cfb_de
Hi Philipp,
I’m not sure which Minox model you’re referring to, but it would certainly be no problem with my C model. The lowest possible speed on that is 9 DIN.
What’s more, you have the option of manual adjustment and a manual exposure meter.
But I’m also well-equipped with TMX/Delta.
Best regards,
Franz
MirkoBoeddecker
Franz,
I think Phillip is referring to the 110 format.
The Minox 8x11 is a different matter. Minox lenses are, almost without exception, outstanding and, thanks to their fixed aperture, are actually designed for maximum sharpness.
With Minox, it would be really fun if the volumes were right.
Another high-resolution set alongside the Spur/8x11 one only makes sense if both don’t end up floundering afterwards due to low demand.
Incidentally, we see the main market for the CMS in the USA as a replacement for TechPan.
There are clear rules in the market there, and one of them is price.
Even though there have been other high-resolution suppliers before the CMS, we are the first to manufacture this film industrially in very large quantities, and through the correspondingly moderate price, we want to try to bring the high-resolution sector out of its high-tech niche and into the realm of everyday usability.
If the calculations work out, customers buying a 10-pack of CMS with the appropriate developer should not pay more for it than they would for a 10-pack of Ilford film plus standard developer.
I, for one, am so impressed with the results that for the time being I’ll only be using CMS in my 35mm camera.
Nevertheless, my Mamiya 7 won’t be gathering dust either, as I love the 65mm and 80mm lenses.
The film is one thing, and the lens is another...
Best regards,
Mirko
PhilippReichmuth
Hi Franz,
I’m not sure which Minox you’re talking about
Minox 110S. It was already mentioned. :D
At least with my C, that would be no problem. The lowest possible speed there is 9 DIN.
As Mirko already wrote, this isn’t the classic Minox for 8x11 film, but a camera for 110 Instamatic film. (
Camera website) Its lens also has an excellent reputation, but that doesn’t help much if the ISO sensitivity isn’t right.
With 110 film, the ISO sensitivity is encoded on the cartridge. There is provision for a high-speed and a low-speed setting; in practice, this usually means 100 and 400 ASA, and 80 and 400 with the
Pentax. Paradoxically, some manufacturers still sold 200 ASA cartridge film; this was then usually just subjected to improper exposure.
Besides, you do have the option of manual adjustment and manual exposure.
Apart from the fact that my Profisix would be twice the size of most 110 cameras: as far as I know, you can’t manually adjust the exposure on practically any 110 camera; this is usually done via some sort of automatic system. In that respect, a 16–25 ASA film is a problem here. Some cameras have a backlight correction feature, which could at least help to approximate the correct exposure.
Philipp
Stagirit
High resolution is all well and good, but what about the contrast when I perform a large enlargement?
Gast
Mirko,
What do you mean by ‘new and industrial’? Does that mean we’ll now be getting Svema/Tasma Mikrat in ADOX boxes as a third type of microfilm?
Roland
MirkoBoeddecker
Roland,
I don't understand the question.
Best regards,
Mirko
Gast
Mirko,
I’m aware of three types of microfilm in total: the various models in the Agfa Copex range, the Kodak Imagelink, and then the Mikrat films from Svema and Tasma.
So it stands to reason that your new microfilm is this Mikrat; after all, it’s officially rated at 6 ASA.
Roland
