FlorianETeply
Having just had another look at the Impex Lab website, I’ve noticed there aren’t any lab courses listed. I seem to recall that they were on offer the last time I checked (though that was a while ago). Have they stopped running them? And just when I’m seriously thinking about getting into making my own stuff? You can’t do this to me...
But maybe one of you sensible Berliners here has an idea...
*Grumble*
Cheers and good light
Florian
MirkoBoeddecker
...unfortunately, they’ve gone quiet due to a lack of coordination regarding demand...
but you could, for example, go to Imago or the VHS Schäberg, Tempelhof, Kreuzberg.
Mirko
FlorianETeply
Ah, right. Thanks for the tips.
Best regards
Florian
RomanJRohleder
Florian,
Do I really need to *tell* you about www.drf-tb.de? Or remind you about the upcoming Lab Rats TR in Steinkimmen?
Tssstsss,
Roman
FlorianETeply
Oh Roman,
don’t be so hard on me, a poor student. For one thing, I’ve only just got back from holiday and need to recover from it mentally. For another, I’ve got a few films here waiting for development, and I read somewhere that you shouldn’t store exposed film for ages. After quickly working out that for the cost of development and printing at Mutti Impex, I could also get a can, some spirals and a changing bag, I just thought, well, why not. And I’ve still got cans of D-76 sitting on the shelf here. Okay, maybe not the ideal solution for the 25mm Efkes, but oh well. It’s a bit of a mixed bag in my fridge anyway. Maybe there’s even enough left for a bag of ATM49 ;-)
To my shame, however, I must admit that I visited the TB site exactly once at the start of my first term (SB’04)...
And as for Steinkimmen, something should actually have just turned up in drf ;-)
Regards
Florian
Gast
Florian,
D76 isn’t ideal – why is that? I’ve been conducting the development of ADOX films in Leicanol/ID11, which is practically the same as D76 since the films were still coming from Neu Isenburg.
Excellent fine grain, good shadow detail, pleasant image quality – much better than the supposedly ideal Neofin Blaue.
8 minutes at 1+1, with 14 DIN exposure, and you get good results; it only gets steep if you develop for too long.
Roland
FlorianETeply
?, yes, these films certainly turn out quite dark under unfavourable conditions. I can admit to having made several mistakes at once with that first roll of film:
1. Developed for too long
2. The developer was too warm (it must have been 22 degrees instead of 20)
3. I also shook it unevenly...
As a result, the results have turned out a bit, well, … “graphic”…
Regarding my comment about D76 not being the ideal developer for these films: I somehow had the idea that this stuff probably works best with Plus-X or Tri-X. It’s certainly not too far-fetched to assume that a developer might be optimised for the manufacturer’s own films. Perhaps I should just give it a go with a test roll. I’m not really keen on the idea of testing it on holiday snaps, though ;-) .
I just need to check something, as I’m not really familiar with the DIN scale: 14° DIN corresponds to 20 ASA, doesn’t it? So that’s overexposure by one-third of a stop compared to the instructions on the packet, right?
Oh, and while we’re on the subject of ADOX: on the relevant website, I’ve also seen the CHS (efke) and CHM (Ilford) ranges, which I’m already familiar with, and it looks like the CMS and FHM ranges are on offer too. Are these in-house developments? Or are they re-labelled third-party films again? As for the FHM films, I could well imagine that they’re called Delta in their native language; that would also fit with the aforementioned collaboration on the CHM films. Perhaps Mirko might say something about the films, even though I haven’t been able to spot them in the catalogue yet. While I’m at it, I might as well suggest film canister lids in different colours to make them easier to tell apart when stored without their boxes – I really like that feature with the Ilfords. Of course, only if no one else has thought of it yet; I’d be happy to pay a few extra pence for that ;-)
Regards
Florian
FrankJBeckmann
Hi Florian,
The lids on my 35mm film tins come in different colours, similar to Ilford.
Bye
Frank
FlorianETeply
That sounds promising.
If in doubt, I could always pop into Mirko’s shop and ask; I need to stock up anyway...
Best regards,
Florian
RomanJRohleder
Florian
"While we're at it, I might as well suggest using film canister lids in different colours to make them easier to tell apart during storage without their boxes – that's something I really like about Ilford's."
Ilford has stopped doing that now, too.
"Of course, only if no one else has thought of it yet; I'd be willing to pay a few extra pence for that ;-)"
Exactly.
Gast
Florian,
Yes, 14 DIN is 20 ASA; the film actually has a sensitivity of 14 DIN, which is why it was originally called ADOX KB14, then Efke KB14, followed by Efke KB20. Right at the end, it was probably supposed to be DX-coded, so they changed the label to KB25.
There are claims circulating about it having double the speed stated; perhaps that’s technically true, but in photographic terms it’s better not to push it to the limit to avoid getting contrasts that are too harsh.
Just give my exposure times a go and then you can see how you get on if it doesn’t suit you.
In any case, apart from the Ukrainian Svema (extremely coarse-grained, otherwise good), I haven’t yet used a film that didn’t get on with ID11/D76.
Roland
