Gast
Can anyone help? I’m looking for the development times for ILFORD HP5 400 film and which developer I should use.
I’m also looking for 3 Trieplex tins for film development.
Thanks,
eurorichter ;)
Gast
You can find development times at www.digitaltruth.com in the 'Massive Development Chart'.
HP5+ isn’t too fussy when it comes to developers; it looks absolutely stunning with Rodinal, though I wouldn’t really recommend that (Franz from the forum already has ;) ), ID11 / D76 is the ‘classic’ recommendation for this film, and I’ve also had good results with Calbe A49.
andreasbrigachtal
Hi Roman,
I can’t see anything wrong with developing HP+ with Rodinal! Especially if you’re using medium format or want to achieve a nice grain with 35mm!
Otherwise, I also use Neofin Blaue. Have a look at the development time calculator on Phototec.
You’d have to test it out for yourself, though! :(
Andreas
P.S. Franz isn’t the only one who recommends RODINAL! ;)
heinrich
Hi everyone,
So, if anyone has any experience with HP5 in Rodinal, I’d be grateful if you could share it. I’ve now settled on ID11: the exposure was 200 ISO in ID11 1+3 for a full 17 minutes with a 1-minute agitation cycle (5 times per minute) gives me a ~Beta of 0.5 in projection (N-1 in the zone system). The negatives (6×6 roll film) can then be printed well to a gradient of 2.5–3 using my condenser enlarger. For sheet film, I extend the development time to 19 minutes. This works quite well with my ancient 13×18 enlarger with a colour mixing head, which I have on hand for this purpose. The paper gradient then ranges from 3 to 3.5.
To Mirko, Agfa has published beta time curves for the various Agfa developers for Agfapan films. Tetenal has done the same for Tetenal developers in combination with all sorts of films. We could save ourselves a lot of testing if others would do the same ;) .......... Add to that a specification of the resulting actual speed and the customer would be really happy, :( ....
Regards
Heinrich
cfb_de
Roman,
Yes, I really do think HP5+ in Rodinal is great :-) 20°C, Agfa agitation, 400 ASA/1+50/11–13 mins // 800 ASA/1+50/17 mins (I also use APX100 with this; it works very well both outdoors and indoors). Or, the absolute ‘reportage look classic’: Rodinal 1+25/800 ASA/8 mins, but with a 10-second agitation at the start of every minute. That gives you the ‘Salomon look’ without motion blur.
Top notch. Yes. So? The shadows get washed out. No wonder at 800 ASA. That’s two stops more than the film actually delivers. But it’s razor-sharp.
If you want the HP5+ to be top-notch: HRX2, 200ASA/1+29/9min, agitate once every 30 seconds. Works quite nicely too. And has good sharpness. Just Schain’s magic formula, really.
Best regards,
Franz
andreasbrigachtal
Hi Heinrich,
I didn’t mean to offend anyone by not specifying any times! But everyone works differently, so I always see other people’s times as just a rough guide. If you’ve had good results with ID-11, stick with it! There’s no point in constantly experimenting with film and developers! Find a combination that works for you and stick with it.
Besides, when it comes to Rodinal, I’m a bit of a fanatic anyway! Even the Kodak HIE goes in Rodinal! Kodak/Delta 3200 ASA at 25,000 is definitely doable!
:(
My friends always say you shouldn’t do that sort of thing, but if you’ve got the time and you’re into real grain clusters, give it a go. Let’s see if there’s still a stop left in there! :>
I’ll be happy to provide some starting times for you to try out if you need them! ;)
Andreas
Sorry, I always write everything in lower case!
heinrich
Hi Andreas,
I used to always develop Agfapan 400 35mm film in Rodinal – that’s when you really get a sense of what grain is. I’ve grown up a bit now, i.e. I’ve got a job and can afford 4x5" film. So I’ve had to switch to HP5 (Agfapan 400 isn’t available in sheet form, after all). With HP5, ID11 also found its way into my home. The reason being that no development times were specified for 1+50 Rodinal and HP5. I had some for ID11 and knew that at -10%, the N-1 development should work. I then misused my Hauk-Trialux as a densitometer and measured the density at ID11 1+3 for 17 minutes, and it worked (0.12 at Zone 0, with an exposure of 200 ASA and a beta of ~0.5).
Now I’m running out of ID11; D76 is supposed to be the same, but it isn’t (at 1+3 it behaves differently, the negatives are harder), so I’m now faced with the choice again: which developer should I test?
That’ll take another 2–3 days. Rodinal has the advantage of lasting forever; half a litre is enough for me for two years. No need to keep making fresh batches like with ID11; just a small sip from the bottle and you’re good to go.
So let’s just let the development times run their course; with 4x5 sheet films there’s no grain anyway, and I’m not trying to make wallpaper.
Regards
Heinrich
andreasbrigachtal
Hi Heinrich,
I’ve got a job too, and only started processing my own photos as an adult. I love wallpaper! ;)
But joking aside. HP+ in a 1:50 Rodinal solution (Ilford data sheet) = 11 mins. However, I expose the HP at 320 ASA and perform development for 12 mins 30 secs. I agitate constantly for the first 30 seconds and then once every 60 seconds. That said, I’ve never tested my films with a densitometer. I just make sure there’s still detail in my shadows and that I can print the whole thing at grade 3.
If you have the means to measure the density, you could try it with Ilford’s official times. I’ll ask my colleague at work tomorrow; he still has the times for the 100 and 200 dilutions. I can’t say yet whether that applies to the HP+ as well. ;) But I’ll post it here too.
No grain with 4x5"? Try my Kodak 3200 in Rodinal! The whole thing at 25,000 ISO!
My time: 75 mins!! Give it a shake every minute.
Of course you wouldn’t do that! ;) I would! Is there actually film available for GF?
I’ve just got the Delta in the pipeline. It’s supposed to be a proper 3200. Maybe 50,000 ISO will work! ;)
You used to be able to download the data sheet for the HP+ as a PDF from Ilford. No idea if that’s still possible. But I’d be happy to email it to you.
Rodinal really is very, very stable!
Have a look at the forum on Phototec. There are loads of pros there and you can use the search function to look specifically for HP+ in Rodinal.
Hope I’ve been able to help you, and do have a think about whether you could do some more wallpapering! ;)
Good light
Andreas
heinrich
Hi Andreas,
Thanks for the times. I’ll give it a go soon. By the way, I don’t have a densitometer. The Trialux is an exposure meter and timer. With a bit of maths (Excel), you can use it to work out the relative densities.
Best regards,
Heinrich
