MirkoBoeddecker
Hi everyone,
We’ve been offered the chance to get hold of some affordable ADOX IR filters to use with ADOX 820 IR film (not yet available).
We were thinking of just one ‘wavelength’ – either 650 nm or 680 nm – but in such large quantities that the retail price would be under €29.
Is anyone interested?
Unfortunately, many attempts to get started with IR photography have so far failed due to the prohibitive filter price of 45 EUR.
We’d be interested to know, purely from a market perspective.
Mirko
micha
What sort of comparable quality were you thinking of? Do you use roll film as well?
Gast
At that price and with a 58mm thread, definitely. I also think digital photographers in particular will be very interested, as you can do some great IR work with a Sony 717, for example – it’s just that filters are hard to come by...
Best regards
Gast
Hi Mirko, I’m curious: is the planned ADOX IR 820 just a Maco IR 820c in new packaging, or are there any chemical or technical differences? Might it also be available in a roll film version? That would certainly be positive news for black-and-white analogue enthusiasts, who are currently having a tough time...
Best regards, Adoxus
Gast
Mirko, the 650 nm and 680 nm filters aren’t ‘proper’ infrared filters yet, but rather quite dark red filters that let quite a bit of visible light through – or have I got something mixed up here?
uworischki
I agree with those interested in the 58mm.
MirkoBoeddecker
OK, got it.
We’re planning two versions: a mild one (650) and a version with a high level of sharpness (730).
Quality: Outstanding – even double-sided MC-coated!!
Otherwise, we wouldn’t be releasing the whole thing under the ADOX brand :-))
IR820: the MACO was an Efke in a different guise. Not the other way round.
More details later when the time comes.
Best regards,
Mirko
CPD
Hello,
I’d also be interested in ‘730 nm’ IR filters, but in slightly larger diameters (e.g. insert filters for the Habla Distagon 2.8/50, though I can’t recall the exact diameter off the top of my head).
What sizes were you thinking of?
Regards, CP
Gast
Hi Mirko,
I’m interested in the filters, but I’d prefer 100x100 unmounted discs, as I’ve always found the hassle of dealing with different filter diameters a real pain. They’d fit perfectly in the Lee and also in the Sinar filter holder. I don’t want threaded ones.
Best regards,
Martin
Gast
Hi Mirko,
Any news on the filters yet?
When will they be available to buy?
What size are they?
And finally, how much will they cost?
I’m actually thinking of finally buying one, and if yours are coming out soon, I’d just add it to my next Papier und Film order (probably before Christmas).
Bye, Micha
Dennis
Hello!
What actually happened with the IR filter promotion? I'm interested.
Regards, Dennis
MirkoBoeddecker
Unfortunately, that turned out to be a hoax.
The manufacturer from the Far East thought they could produce IR filters, but in reality they were just trying to palm off red filters on us.
I suppose there are sometimes deeper language barriers at play, even when they nod politely and say "yes infrared" :-(
Sorry,
Mirko
mau
I’d be interested in the attractive version (58 mm diameter)
HerbertHanauer
Hi Mirko,
If you’re going to release a new IR film, why not make it something similar to the discontinued Konica IR 750? We really do miss that one. Nobody really needs yet another Maco/Efke 820 in ADOX packaging. The Konica’s unusual sensitisation (orthochromatic with additional IR speed, if I’m not mistaken) already produced a veritable Wood effect with an R 25 filter, well-defined shadows and excellent grey-scale gradation. That would save us all the hassle with special IR filters; almost everyone has an R 25 (light red). It costs no more than any other colour filter.
Best regards
Herbert
MirkoBoeddecker
Herbert,
It’s not about bringing another Efke/Maco film onto the market, but about keeping the Efke 820 alive.
Maco is currently phasing it out and focusing on Agfa. A company that, given its enormous size, doesn’t need this business and certainly isn’t continuing to produce black-and-white film for that reason. Efke, on the other hand, is meant to survive – that is our stated goal.
We also want to improve the IR820 and are currently conducting initial tests.
A slight reduction in sensitisation in favour of higher speed and better storage stability is also being considered.
By the way, have you ever experimented with the Classicpan 400?
With a red filter, it produces similar effects to the Konica, just not as strongly.
Best regards,
Mirko
Dennis
Hi Mirko!
First of all, thanks for the reply!
I really like the fact that "the boss writes here himself". :D
By the way, a big shout-out to my namesake Lutz
from your Impex shop – he really knows his stuff and comes across as a really nice bloke
too!
It’s not about bringing another Efke/Maco onto the market, but about keeping the Efke 820 alive
That sounds exciting. I’m also interested in the Efke IR820 continuing beyond MACO
. For the sake of beautiful black-and-white slides, though, it would be nice
if you didn’t get the idea to do away with the clear backing,
even if the film could then perhaps be loaded into the camera in daylight.
A slight reduction in sensitisation in favour of higher speed and better storage stability is also being considered
Reducing the sensitisation? The
IR820c didn’t strike me as being all that great in the infrared as “MACO”. More of a lacklustre film, about 100 times slower
than the Kodak HIE when compared with a 780nm filter.
If you’re going to launch a new IR film, why not make it something similar to the now-defunct Konica IR 750? We really miss that one
I see it exactly the same way as Herbert. The Konica was the best IR material I’ve
come across so far, thanks to its resolution – unrivalled by other materials – and precisely
because of the sensitivity gap in the red spectrum, which made IR photography soooo easy,
with a bold Wood effect, just a red filter in front of the lens.
If only something like that were to come back one day, with a clear base.... Dream on
Best regards
Dennis
Gast
Mirko,
I disagree – the Klare Traeger film has to go. If you can manage that, the Efke film (in general) can cost 10–20 cents more for all I care.
Roland
Dennis
:D
The clear case has to go
No, it absolutely has to stay, otherwise it’s
pointless to me. As an IR photographer, I always travel with the
interchangeable lens bag anyway...
Regards, Dennis
Gast
Dennis,
You can also project a grey film without anyone noticing, as it’s grey to begin with.
But the antihalation protection suffers greatly with the clear base material; I can hardly manage to photograph a window from the inside without overexposure, or chrome parts when using a flash.
As far as I’m concerned, the IR can stay as it is; perhaps, like ADOX did back in the day, they’ll supply a clear film with ‘U’ for reversal and special antihalation, and the others as normal.
Roland
RomanJRohleder
An AHU can also be very effective on a clear base – take a look at how Foma protects the R100 with a silver coating underneath the emulsion.
The R100 is sensitised up to around 710 nm and, unfortunately, isn’t available in 120 format either. .-(
