Gast
Mirko,
Why did you delete my competition entry? <_< :-( (Surely everyone should be able to take part, not just FOTOIMPEX staff.) By the way: legal recourse is, of course, excluded.
Best regards,
Ferdinand
Gast
...I wrote to you in an email before this post was published....
rherz
<_<
Hi Mirko,
Don’t let Ferdinand get to you – to him, anything that isn’t packaged in yellow is rubbish – assuming that company’s still in business. Eventually, someone will turn up (probably a mentally deranged Efke user – just like me :blink: , who simply refuses to understand the achievements of recent years) and drowns him as slowly as possible in X-T0L (which hopefully hasn’t been scrapped without warning beforehand – so much for the achievements of recent years – or been discontinued because the company is now focusing more on digital) :D
Best regards,
Robert
who sticks by Old Fritz’s motto: To each his own! :)
Gast
Blimey, that was a politically incorrect post! “and drowns him as slowly as possible in X-T0L”. Well, I’ll be. Where on earth is the block warden?
Thank goodness you don’t have to look far in Mirko’s self-service shop of intellectual achievements to find nonsense that’s even more nonsensical:
“Beginners naturally prefer to use balanced developers such as Classic F09 or a MIRACLE DEVELOPER like A 49 or XTOL.”
One can really only shake one’s head in amazement.
Ferdinand
(torn to shreds)
rherz
Hi Ferdinand,
That post is absolutely politically correct. Have you ever actually helped an Efke user who was having problems with the film? No, you regularly slag off the films and praise the yellow company to the skies. That doesn’t help anyone who wants to use Efke in the slightest, and somehow the people who post on the forums usually just want help.
Everyone’s free to do as they please. Perhaps you should simply set up an ‘Efke-Haters Forum’ on your website and chat with like-minded people there – then you can leave the Efke posts in the other forums in peace. <_<
And I won’t hear a word against A49 – it’s close to perfection. That’s also a reason why you hardly ever read about it in the forums – it hardly ever causes any trouble! Compared to everything else – it’s almost a miracle. :)
Best regards
Robert
Quote (though I can’t remember who said it :blink: ): There are a thousand opportunities to keep your mouth shut – make the most of them all!
Gast
Robert,
The next shift handover/chain letter post is definitely on its way. I can’t promise I’ll be able to hold back. The mental outbursts of some of those efke fanatics are just hilarious. And it’s all just about FILM MATERIAL.
I’ll be back!
Ferdinand
rherz
Hi Ferdinand,
I don’t really count myself among the Efke fanatics: 35mm: Fuji Neopan 100 Acros (because of the black shield) as my main film, and if I’ve got plenty of light and don’t want any grain, I use Efke 25 – in low light, Neopan 400, and as a last resort, Neopan 1600.
For 4x5", Efke PL100 and soon, on a trial basis, Maco Cube 400c – sort of as a standby IR film and for a bit more speed – we’ll see...
This isn’t about defending Efke, but rather that your posts regarding Efke always miss the point – they offer no help on the subject, just superfluous comments. And as far as I’m concerned, you can simply leave those comments out.
Best regards
Robert
Gast
Well, our Ferdinand is just a relic of the Cold War – nothing good can, may, or should come from the East...
Fortunately, thanks to Marx, we know better ;-)
Gast
PS: I wonder if his attitude will change now that the Czech Republic (-> Foma) and Hungary (-> Forte) are already EU members; Croatia (-> Efke) will surely follow suit in a few years’ time...
Roman (already planning his holiday to Croatia at the end of May...)
rherz
Hi Roman,
Just don’t go and ruin his last remaining enemy... <_< (with prospects like that)
Best regards,
Robert
Gast
Are there actually any films about Islamic fundamentalism (Osama-Pan)?
rherz
Not that I know of – but we could always have a look...
You mean, that way we could draw attention to a new, fresh and still relevant bogeyman.
What sort of ‘quirks’ should a film like that have? (Maybe a grain of sand in it now and then?)
Alternatively, I could ask my brother-in-law in Shanghai to look into Chinese films – perhaps there are some with a red tint?
Nah, that won’t work – the pink ones have already reserved those dimensions for themselves (unless you bathe them in vast quantities of highly concentrated developer)
<_<
Best regards
Robert
Gast
>Are there actually any Islamist-fundamentalist films (Osama-Pan)?
>Roman
No, Roman, what you mean is the Tali-Pan.
But I don’t think Ferdinand will manage to put together a coalition of the willing, despite all his zeal in the fight against the silver fundamentalists from Berlin. That kind of doggedness is totally uncool. I’d much rather revel in the creamy smoothness of the ‘wundergrau’ values. But who am I telling this to?
Regards
LS
Gast
Hello there,
Since you’re all gathered here so nicely, perhaps one of you could answer the following question for me:
Why on earth do you NEVER hear such petty whingeing when other material gets a bad rap (which is often enough the case, for example, with the ‘Mähen’, which I – at least in rherz’s imagination – use exclusively)? Could it be that this has something to do with inferiority complexes?
@rherz
: You seem to have a compulsion to see your own problems in others as well, a dubious tendency when trying to overcome them. Keyword: rose-tinted glasses and developer stability. Have a look at your own posts.
@Roman
: Many thanks for this free demonstration of your logical thinking. Hegel and Marx would be truly flabbergasted. Enjoy your holiday and make sure they don’t palm off some cheap B-movie on you. It would be a shame if lovely photos ended up down the drain again.
And by the way: as you can see, I don’t need to try desperately to form a coalition. My support comes naturally, so to speak, on a purely voluntary basis:
http://www.phototec.de/phorum_neu/read.php...i=57761&t=57753
Good night everyone
rherz
Hi Ferdinand,
- The pink tinge and the tendency of Mähen film to require extra fixer are just one example of how other films also need a slightly more specialised treatment, meaning they aren’t quite so straightforward. One film is given the benefit of the doubt, another isn’t...
- Developer shelf life: Every developer goes off at some point (even if we haven’t yet figured out when that is with Rodinal :blink: ) A49 too (I assume you’re referring to the post) – but it warns you beforehand with very obvious discolouration! XTOL doesn’t... etc.
No offence, but I think you’ve got a problem here.
To get back to the actual point: help people deal with their problems, or just stay out of it. <_< That way, everyone benefits.
Best regards
Robert
Gast
Hello Ferdinand,
Don’t despair. We all take you very seriously.
Regarding your question about other materials –
http://www.phototec.de/phorum_neu/read.php...i=57860&t=57753
So, what now? Shall we get stuck in? Hold on. Let’s check the statistics first.
No. of complaints Efke >> No. of complaints Ilford. All is well with the world.
You might well be right on some points. But do stop stamping your feet for a moment, so we can make a bit more sense of the text.
Best regards,
LS
Gast
Folks,
The question wasn’t whether there are problems with other materials (which I’ve never denied), but why users of Kodak, Ilford, Fuji, Agfa – or whatever – aren’t always so quick to take offence. Surely that can’t be so hard to understand.
F.
Gast
Hello Ferdinand,
- The pink tinge and the tendency of Mähen film to ‘hunger’ for fixer are just one example of how other films also require a slightly more specialised treatment, meaning they aren’t quite so straightforward. One film is given the benefit of the doubt, another isn’t...
- Developer shelf life: Every developer goes off at some point (even if we haven’t yet figured out when with Rodinal ;) ) A49 too (I assume you’re referring to the post) – but it warns you beforehand with very noticeable discolouration! XTOL doesn’t... etc.
No offence, but I think you’ve got a problem here.
To get back to the actual reason: help people sort out their problems, or just stay out of it. :angry: Then everyone’s better off.
Best regards
Robert
rherz,
I’ll do my best and I’ve already got an idea. Just wait and see!
F.
Gast
>but why users of Kodak/Ilford/Fuji/Agfa—whatever—aren’t always so quick to take offence. Surely that can’t be so hard to understand
Hello Ferdinand,
Is that so? OK, if you say so. No, put like that, it really is hard to understand. Mind you, I don’t think it’s hard to answer either, given the context. I’m sure you’ll come round to it too.
It would be nice if we could all take your last post to heart more often in future. In the sense that it’s counterproductive to phrase technical changes in an offensive way or to react with offence to technical differences of opinion.
Best regards,
Christian
Gast
There's a 'not' missing. NOT NOT NOT hard to understand.
