Fomabrom VAR.IV 123

PeterVolkmar · 2015-09-17T12:47:28+00:00

Moin, ? im Shop ist das Papier nicht mehr aufgeführt. In einem australischen Block stand daß das Papier nicht mehr hergestellt wird da es zu sehr schleier...

PeterVolkmar

Hi, ? The paper is no longer listed in the shop. An Australian forum post stated that the paper is no longer being manufactured because it causes too much ghosting. (http://thelargeformatblog.com/2015/09/08/foma-discontinues-fomabrom-variv-123-paper) I haven’t found any other information on this, and it’s no longer listed on the Foma website either. Other shops still stock the paper. Mirko, can you comment on this? Do you still have any stock, or has it all been returned to Foma? ? Regards, Peter

MirkoBoeddecker

The paper is back in stock. We have taken over all remaining stock from Foma. Unfortunately, Foma has only granted us a 10% discount, which is just enough to keep the price stable. 90% of Fomabrom 123 sales were for lith paper. It remains perfectly suitable for this purpose, and we will continue to offer it for this use. As a standard enlargement paper, it only works if the developer used contains sufficient anti-haze components.

PeterVolkmar

Hi, ? Thanks for the message. ... and for the new machine, I’m putting a bromine oil paper at the top of my wish list ;-) Especially as the Foma from the last batch is only really suitable for that with some hardeners anyway! ? Regards, Peter

bimbuli

Hi, ? Thanks for the message. ... and for the new machine, I’m putting bromide paper at the top of my wish list ;-) Especially since the Foma from the last batch is only suitable for this now with harder measures anyway! ? Regards, Peter

Hello, What are these harder measures for the Foma paper? A higher soaking temperature or ammonia? I still have the IMAGO bromine oil paper; 25 degrees is enough and the soaking effect is very good. Unfortunately, that’s no longer available either... Regards, Klaus

MirkoBoeddecker

A bromoil version of Polywarmton would be possible. Bromoil paper must always be fresh, as even slightly hardened paper continues to harden over time. That would be an ideal product for our small casting machine.

PeterVolkmar

Hi, ? @ Klaus: 70 and developed very hard. Even so, not all of them worked out. I’ll give the remaining Lith a go. ??????????????? For bromoil, I’m going to do the coating myself first. As for paper that’s still suitable, there’s Slavich available now, but in Germany it’s only from one supplier and in one?? ??????????????? gradient. Then there’s Kentmere, though I’m not sure if it still contains what it’s supposed to. And Ilford MG IV. But as these aren’t specifically designed for bromoil????? ??????????????? and I don’t want to run into any changes in the emulsion again, I’d rather give them a miss. ? @ Mirco: That would be perfect, of course! You’d have my order straight away! ? Regards, Peter

bimbuli

Hi, ? @ Klaus: 70° and developed very hard. Even so, not all of them worked out. I’ll give the remaining Lith a go. ??????????????? For bromoil, I’m going to do the coating myself first. As for paper that’s still suitable, there’s now Slavich, but in Germany it’s only available from one supplier and in a?? ??????????????? gradient. Then there’s Kentmere, though I don’t know if it still contains what it’s supposed to. And Ilford MG IV. But as these aren’t specifically labelled for bromoil????? ??????????????? and I don’t want to run into changes in the emulsion again, I’d rather give that a miss. ? @ Mirco: That would be perfect, of course! You’d have my order straight away! ? Regards, Peter

Hi, @Peter : Wow, 70 degrees. I would have expected the gelatin to have dissolved long ago. I’ve tried the Slavich. No chance up to 40 degrees. I could give it a go at 70 degrees too. ? @Mirko : The post-curing certainly depends on the paper. I’ve got a residue of Bergger Brom 240 which, if I remember correctly, is Forte paper. Forte has been dead and buried for ages. That still works very well at 40 degrees. But of course you’d get an order from me straight away too! ? Regards, Klaus

PeterVolkmar

@Klaus: I was at my wits' end ;-) Bicarbonate of soda didn't work, and I didn't want to use ammonia, so I kept increasing the dose by 10 units; at 70, something finally happened. But as I said, I won't be doing that again! ? Regards, Peter

Olivinyl

Hello everyone, Could someone please explain to me what bromide paper is, or what the bromide process involves? Thanks Best regards, Oliver

PeterVolkmar

Here’s a full description: http://www.edeldruck.org/Edeldruck/Bromoldruck.html and here https://www.facebook.com/Peter-Volkmar-173958729322403/timeline/ you can see what I managed to achieve at 70° ;-)

Olivinyl

Thank you