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Hi everyone,
I’ve just received my Washi KB films without perforations.
I loaded the first one straight into my Mamiya RB using an adapter.
My question is:
Has anyone had any experience with this film?
And would you be willing to share it with us/me?
I’d like to avoid any beginner’s mistakes when developing this film in a paper developer under red light.
The instruction sheet is written in French and is included.
However, it leaves some questions unanswered.
Washi has approx. 3–6 DIN
Regards
Marcus
jochen53
Hello,
All I can say on this matter is that non-perforated 35 mm films are microfilms. They are wound onto reels of various sizes and lengths and are – compared to perforated films used for still photography – surprisingly inexpensive, but difficult to use in standard cameras. For documents archived on these materials, a lifespan of approximately 200–500 years is expected, provided they are carefully processed and stored.
Neutrino
Hello,
All I can say on this matter is that non-perforated 35 mm films are microfilms. They are wound onto reels of various sizes and lengths and are – compared to perforated films used for still photography – surprisingly inexpensive, but difficult to use in standard cameras. For documents archived on these materials, a lifespan of approximately 200–500 years is assumed, provided they are carefully processed and stored
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Washi film is something quite different. It is not microfilm, but a paper emulsion applied to a special Japanese paper.
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I’ve just received my Washi 35mm films without perforations.
I loaded the first one straight into my Mamiya RB using an adapter.
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Where on earth did you get the Washi 35mm films? All I can find anywhere are medium format or sheet films. I can’t find anything about them on their website either.
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Cool, are there 35mm adapters for the RB 67? I had no idea. Could you give me some more details about that? I’d be interested to know too.
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The leaflet is written in French, by the way, and it says
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Here’s an English description:
http://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/images/products/media/56520_4_Produktbroschuere.pdf
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Perhaps that will help you a bit. Otherwise, I’m afraid I can’t say anything about this film myself.
highscore
Hi everyone
Thanks for the replies.
@Jochen
Yes, a lot of the non-perforated ones are microfilms and the like. But Washi Film is for proper photography.
But please don’t be offended.
@Neutrino
The Washi 35mm version. Which our host unfortunately doesn’t stock.
I ordered that from www.mx2.fr here in France.
He doesn’t seem to have any in stock at the moment. There was a note on the delivery note saying he’ll send me another one later.
And I’d only ordered five.
I’ve seen adapters for 35mm in the Mamiya 6 x 4.5 magazine for sale before. They were expensive.
I built mine myself, though.
But it’s very easy!
All you need is 2x 120 reels and 1x 135 reel core, plus some plastic parts and a saw.
The 135 cassette to be inserted, containing about 20 exposures, is then given a 40cm paper leader.
I like the effect of the perforation holes in portrait shots.
But it’s ideal for the unperforated Washi, of course.
If you’re interested in my solution, I’d be happy to take some photos.
Ah, but I can read the one for the label quite well.
Now, back to the other readers
Has anyone had any experience with this film?
Regards
Highscore
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Here are three photos taken with an adapter in the Mamiya back
Rolf-Werner
Neutrino
Marcus, thank you very much for your explanation and the photos of the 35mm adapter. If it really is that simple, I might have a go at making one myself soon. When scanning, I could even use the Reflecta RPS 7200 instead of the Epson 750V, as it offers a much better resolution. I’d have to reassemble the images on the computer, but that shouldn’t be too difficult. There shouldn’t be any problems with enlarging them either, at least when using glass. It’s just that the paper format isn’t quite as cost-effective.
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Two more questions, though:
If I use a standard 35mm film with 36 exposures and, say, skip the paper leader, I should get somewhere between 15 and 17 panoramic shots with a Back 220, right? An even more important question: how do you get the 35mm film back into the cassette? Or do you only open the Back in complete darkness and then remove the film?
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Oh, and I should have realised that you wouldn’t have much trouble with the French instructions if you live in France. :D
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Hi Neutrino
As I said before, I mainly use a 6 x 4.5 back when I’m shooting 35mm.
I use 135 cassettes pre-loaded with 20 exposures, which gives me 16 shots, or 10 shots with the 6 x 7 back.
With a 220 back (which I don’t have), you should get 19–20 shots with 35mm film.
However, you should test it with some old film to make sure the take-up side doesn’t get too thick.
With 20 = 16 it works fine, you just have to remove the film in the changing bag.
But I want to talk about Washi film!!!
I’ve already developed my first roll!
Regards
Highscore
Rolf-Werner
And what did you find out? Is it similar to the results from the links I found?
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Best regards,
Rolf
HGR
Hello,
I’ve also developed my first sheet films. One roll film and three sheet films. The sheet film is very
delicate; it creases easily when loading and during development. The roll film didn’t turn out well. Either I developed it for too long
or exposed it incorrectly. Three sheet films weren’t seated properly in the cassette because they were creased. One sheet film is presentable as a first attempt
and looks as if I’ve invented photography?!?! But I need to try ironing the negative again?
I hope the image attachment works and you like the crinkled look.
Regards,
Hans-Gerd
Rolf-Werner
Yeah, something different for a change! Looks interesting.
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The texture of the paper is an added bonus. Pretty cool! :)
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Rolf
highscore
Hi
I developed my Korkenzieher film today.
But it’s not exactly smooth. It went quite well through the glass in my darkroom.
Afterwards, I simply printed without a multigrade filter.
Here are two photos I’ve taken.
The paper texture is clearly visible (on the prints).
Handling the wet Washi negative seems to be quite a problem with sheet film!
With roll film, however, you can easily hold it at both ends to feed it through the spools. At least, that’s how I do it.
Conclusion: I’m a bit disappointed with the portraits.
I like it for architecture.
My next target for the Washi is a bridge. But this time with the 6x7 back = 35 x 67 negatives. Hopefully it will turn out well!
Regards
Highscore
highscore
Hi
I developed my Korkenzieher film today.
But it could have been smoother. It went quite well through the glass in my darkroom.
Afterwards, I simply printed without a multigrade filter.
Here are two photos I took.
The paper texture is clearly visible (on the prints).
Handling the wet Washi negative seems to be quite problematic with sheet films!
With roll film, however, you can easily hold it at both ends to guide it through the belts. At least, that’s how I do it.
Conclusion: I’m a bit disappointed with portraits.
I like it for architecture.
My next target for the Washi is a bridge. But this time with the 6x7 back = 35 x 67 negatives. Hopefully it will turn out well!
I’ll also reduce the speed to 12–15 ASA to gain more grey tones. I found 25 ASA a bit too much this time.
Regards
Highscore
highscore
Hi
I developed my Korkenzieher film today.
But it could have been smoother. It went quite well through the glass in my darkroom.
Afterwards, I simply printed it without a multigrade filter.
Here are two photos I took.
The paper texture is clearly visible (on the prints).
Handling the wet Washi negative seems to be quite problematic with sheet films!
With roll film, however, you can easily hold it at both ends to feed it through the belts. At least, that’s how I do it.
Conclusion: I’m a bit disappointed with the portraits.
I like it for architecture.
My next target for the Washi is a bridge. But this time with the 6x7 back = 35 x 67 negatives. Hopefully it will turn out well!
I’ll also reduce the speed to 12–15 ASA to gain more grey tones. I found 25 ASA a bit too much this time.
Regards
Highscore
Wolf_XL
... looks more like a bit of a run-of-the-mill film... :o
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Rolf-Werner
Quite… vintage :) And your models remain anonymous, which is definitely an advantage…
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Rolf
MirkoBoeddecker
The 35mm version of the Washi film was a one-off batch. There weren’t enough units for us to stock. If we feel that we’re receiving a product in insufficient quantities, we prefer to wait before listing it in the shop.
Furthermore, the first batches of film weren’t perforated, which would have led to queries and confusion.
We are in close contact with Washi, have been helping them for years and also supply them with the necessary components.
We are currently looking for a solution to the perforation problem.
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Best regards,
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Mirko
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Hi
Here's my bridge
